On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 11:42 -0500, Jesse Keating wrote: > On 03/16/2006 Leslie Satenstein wrote: > > > With kudzu broken, potential keyboard problems, as well as the 2054 kernel for nvidia, I see no reason to download the first release. > > Why push broken software unless a new iso in a very short time thereafter(2 weeks) is released. > > > Kudzu works for the vast majority of users right now. Bill has been > trying to get specific information out of you and has thus far failed to > get anything helpful for fixing your particular problem. What > 'keyboard' issues? We've had testers testing our various input methods > and they work just as well if not way better than the current FC4. As > for the nivida thing, welcome to Fedora. We manage to break proprietary > drivers out of the gate in just about every release, whether it be our > fault or Vendor's fault, it happens. We don't support these drivers so > it isn't our major concern to make sure they work. > > No software is perfect, and there has to be an acceptable amount of > shipped bugs. If we waited until the software had no bugs to ship, we'd > never ship. I'm proud of this release, and proud of all the hardwork > the developers, documenters, testers, etc put in. Both inside and > especially outside of Red Hat. > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list I have been reporting the kudzu problem for at least 1-2 weeks and apparently it wasn't an important to someone until now? Maybe too many fires had to be put out first :-) I wonder how many users out there are using nvidia chipsets? So in effect you are saying... "too bad - you are in the minority and we will continue on and leave you wither in the dust..." Sigh... personally, I would tell you a thing or two not very nice words and to... well... I'm going to be a gentleman and leave it at that. I hope Bill can resolve this issue as soon as possible and can get the fix in before the major release. I was one of those poor saps in FC4 and I can tell you that FC4 first release was a real piece of ****, because for me - I had to jump over HUGE HURDLES to get to a level where I can proceed and thank god I am an engineer and could do it, but for those who could not are basically SOL waiting for the next major release, like FC5 and I guess, unfortunately the vicious cycle might repeat itself. I have offered to give you any information you want from me so that I could help you, and this community, and anyone who have mvidia chipsets in their motherboard like I do. I have responded to Bill as soon as I woke up and read his message to me (from a different email thread) and did an [strace /sbin/kudzu] and gave him the output trace as requested so hopefully this will be something that may give him a handle on the issue. If there is anything else I can do to help, let me know! I am currently running FC5T3 right now as I have bypassed the kudzu boot script until this issue is resolved. Please be nice and let me know if a fix has been generated. Thanks! Dan -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list