> Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 19:04:42 +1100 > From: David Timms <dtimms@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Default Desktop Behavior > To: fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx > Message-ID: <440D3E9A.9040305@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Uno Engborg wrote: > > Uno Engborg wrote: > >> Todd Simi wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I didn't see a reply, so I thought I'd ask again. > >>> > >>> Is their a way to change the desktop behavior that open new application > >>> below the one with current focus? If I'm in evolution and I click a > >>> line in an email, I'd like the firefox window to open on top with focus. > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> Todd > >>> > >> I would have replied, the problem is that I can't really decide whats > >> best. > >> A change like this really needs usability testing with real users to > >> evaluate. > >> > >> The problem with opening applications on top is that they may catch your > >> typing, the disadvantage is that it generates an extra click to bring > >> the application to front. > You might remember that an alt-tab will access the last created window, > ie the one that opened up underneath...you don't even have to slow > yourself down by needing to move your hand off the keyboard, and mousing > around ;) Or the minimize current window Alt-F9 which which leaves the > new window on top (harder to get the fingers around). > > >> On the other hand I have never felt that applications open on top > >> catching input ever have been a big problem, so perhaps it should have > >> been > >> left unchanged. So I suggest you file a bug report. > >> > >> One way to avoid the problem would be to use the new deskbar applet to > >> type in application names instead of using terminal windows. > What is that called ? > Is it part of a basic gnome install ? > I couldn't see it in add to panel ? > > > I think I have made up my mind. This opening window behind is really > > annoying. > I guess it depends on things like: > - does your brain work only in a single task at a time way > - is the PC so incredibly quick at showing the actual application window > with the required data already in focus (I'm thinking startuo time for > openoffice text or firefox, 15 secs/40secs to get past the 'i'm > starting' dialog and show the actual contents), while you are still > continuing to read the email you clicked the link on. > > I get these mails with say twenty links in them. The way I work is > quickly skim the email, clicking any interesting ones (takes say ten > seconds), delete the email, close email viewer, and then the next thing > on screen is the preloaded web page with the content i requested. I > don't need to sit here staring an 'i'm starting' dialog or a document / > web page that is taking some time to load, when I could have continued > and completed what I was doing in the same wait time. > > So if you were typing and the app came up over the top you would waste > your time until you realized the keystrokes were going to the wrong > place...delete...click back to where you really wanted to be...try to > remember what you had been writing...retype it again. I've done this so > many times that just this short time with a window manager that dosen't > do this has been excellent. > > > At the very least this should be changeable in gconf. > Yeah, we all have different needs/ways of operation, that a pref like > this could take into account. > > DaveT. > > > I understand about ALT-TAB, but why must it be that I have to do that in order to access the application I just asked for? My firefox loads in 7 seconds, if I haven't used it in a session, and only 3 seconds if I have. I don't find that to long to wait for what I want to read. That's if I'm clicking on a link in an email. This behavior also occurs when clicking on one of the icons at the top of the screen. When calling a program directly for execution. If right now I decide I want to insert a quote from the web, I have to click on the firefox icon, then be anoid that I have to ALT-TAB or click on it in addition. I just think this could be a really great configurable feature, and not the M$ type of "feature" it is to me now. Todd -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list