Hi, I recently did an upgrade installation of FC5 test 3 on top of my fully updated FC4 system. I ran into a couple of things that I haven't seen reported here but that I'm not really sure are useful to file as bugs, at least not before some discussion. Problems: * Gnome-panel wouldn't start until I removed the old .gnome2/session file. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=183318 * NetworkManager works great with wired networking but can't get my wireless card to associate - this worked great in FC4. (I can manually get association and a DHCP IP address by using iwconfig an dhclient.) This is using the Madwifi driver, so treat as you wish. No encryption; the only limitation turned on on the router is MAC restrictions. I don't really have a feeling for how to submit a useful bug report for this one. Surprises (more discussion points than bugs maybe?): * Xscreensaver did not get replaced by gnome-screensaver, as I had expected. * No gnome-power-manager - shouldn't this be default-included on an upgrade? * Gnome help system claims to need Beagle but that is not installed. Dependency bug? If Beagle/Mono is considered to be too heavy a dep to pull in everywhere, would it be possible to select between a simple search system and a Beagle- based one dynamically at runtime depending on whether or not Beagle is installed (or I guess rather whether beagle is running)? As far as I have understood, upstream Gnome doesn't actually have any hard deps on anything Mono? * Even after I installed Beagle. it didn't start automatically in the Gnome session. On another note, I haven't had particularly much luck with Xair just yet, I did get it to work but it's slow and hangs quite a lot unfortunately. Cool stuff though, I'm glad to see this happening! :) Cheers, Per -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list