as one of the more obnoxious posters who's been hounding rahul about this whole "everything"/"all of the above", i'll admit that, ***under the present circumstances***, i now see his point. my arguments were based on the assumption that *all* available packages at compile time that would be considered part of a basic install would be *entirely* categorized and selectable via some checkbox selection. if that were the case, then it's *clear* that there would be no rational argument against an "All of the above" install. *however*, the above is based on the assumption that every single package falls into some selectable category and, historically, that's clearly not been the case, as lots of people know. (historically, selecting every single checkbox still didn't give you what an "Everything" install did, and that was cause for much confusion on the part of folks who didn't realize that.) clearly, a complete package categorization is a long-term goal and a good one (if it's achievable) and, as rahul admits, once that happens, then an "All of the above" install is not a problem. but until that categorization happens, then, yes, i can appreciate the problem as it exists currently. i would still fall on the side of wanting an "Everything" install selection (however you define it), but it's obvious that a lot of this back-and-forth would go away once the categorization is finalized. rday p.s. even with the *current* layout, while an "Everything" install (in its historical sense) has the potential for confusion, an "All of the above" would most emphatically not. just my $0.02. p.p.s. as i've written earlier, i'd like to see a partitioning of all the software into a much slimmer "basic" install, with a lot of that software selection moved into firstboot or something like it. is there a URL that discusses plans for something like this? thanks. -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list