Horst von Brand wrote:
Jim Cornette <fct-cornette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
[...]
The major reason that I used the everything install in the recent past
was the lack of packages that I liked being marked down the list and
not selectable without using the everything installation choice.
Did you report that obvious bug?
I filed a bug for FC5T1 but not for problems where I just selected
everything and un-installed the language packages later. I should have
filed a bug related to the specific packages I wanted but were not
selectable.
Another reason for the rational resurrection of the everything install
is because of groups of packages that are modularized and which bring
up a lot of needless clicking on selections.
Did you suggest a better layout?
The layout in the FC5T2 is a great layout and it is obvious that a lot
of thought was put into the new installer. The problems that I see now
are related to programs which do not show up on the installer selection
screen. Also I see a problem where programs that are quite a deal less
useful are not de-selectable and must be rpm -e useless-package after
the installation is completed. The groups might be tailored where core
libraries that are used by the major program do not show selectable, but
individual front-ends to CLI programs or programs that can be removed
without major dependency issues. This type of selection ability would
appease a large spectrum of users.
Besides, after wanting "everything", you talk about "useless packages"
being selected... now which one is it?
The major gripe was that gftp is not selected as a usual program to
install and gnome-screensaver is not selectable. I use gftp frequently
and choose it along with mozilla-mail and the rest of the suite. I also
need to manually select mc and a few other programs. It is mainly a
gripe where programs that I do not use are default and programs where I
find very little redemption to are installed without having the initial
ability to not select the program.
I do not think that I would select an everything install with the shape
that pirut and the installer are in now. I do feel that users should be
able to opt for a full install if they desire to install everything.
As someone stated, webmail companies added this feature so users can
manage their systems better. Also, RHN used to have a select all feature
and the feature came in handy to save steps. I see no problem with
adding a way that one can set the installer to install everything and
then be able to work their way down to smaller sets of selected packages.
Jim
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