Rahul Sundaram <sundaram@xxxxxxxxxx> on 01/23/2006 10:27 AM added: >>> >>> Please explain what is good about the everything installation option. >>> Dont throw around vague notions. >>> >>> >> It saves me time when selecting packages to install. > >Which ones? All of them. Thats the whole point. >> It saves me time to not have to install packages individually. > >What are you using your system for?. Is it a >desktop/workstation/server/development system?. Doesnt it fit into one >of these profiles? Correct, It doesn't fit. My usage profile (like many others on this list) is a superset of those categories. I've found that none of the existing profiles suits my needs. They each have something missing. My laptop is: - a desktop, - a workstation, - a server - a development system. Because I use the 'desktop' of my 'workstation' to 'develop' 'server' applications. Actually, given your attitude against the 'all' profile, you can't really justify having a 'workstation', or server', or any other arbitrary profile either. Given your rationalization, they whould all be removed too! >> I don't have to download packages (via yum or whatever) that have >> already been downloaded in the isos. > >You cant work with them using the current tools provided anyway. The point is, as has been mentioned a million time already in this thread, Its a great inconvienience to have to push every button manually. Especially in light of the fact that this feature: _used_ to exist, _was_ being used by a lot of people. and has been _removed_. Its not as if we are asking for a 'new' feature, we just want our 'old' feature back. > Thats >what we are trying to fix already. If you dont use yum to keep yourself >updated installing everything is dangareous since it brings in potential >security issues with packages you wouldnt even use. Yup, and I/we are willing to risk that, and deal with the issues. >> I don't need a kickstart file. > >> I don't need to waste space on disk with rpms when I already have the >> package installed from the initial installation. > >You waste disk space by installing packages you wouldnt use. You will to >keep packages updated. Performance would do down with deamons and other >session programs. You would be installing tons of world languages which >you wouldnt be using and so on. Yup. wasting disk space is _our_ choice, not yours. You select the packages you want to install, and we get to select the packages _we_ want to install. Performance issues... yup. we will live with it. world languages... yup, we will live with it. The bottom line, is its _our_ choice as the installers, not yours. While I've been reading this thread, there seems to be a whole lot of people who are addemant about having this bug (where the everything option appears to now be missing) fixed. You have received a lot of feedback and justification for having it re-instated, but you seem to be reluctant to accept the fact that: "PEOPLE WANT IT BACK". It seems to me that there are more people, with more justifications that want it back, than you and your rationalizations. (Please note that I _am_ trying to be civil about this.) -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list