On 1/16/06, Rodd Clarkson <rodd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > This is in essence (or it would appear to be) what we already have. for test releases... yes, because the development tree already exists and the Core buildsystem and the development tree itself is a rolling release that momentarily freezes just long enough to roll the test isos. for final releases...typically no, because the update tree and bugzilla component are created as part of the release process as new branches. You simply cannot expect to see update content populate the update tree before the official release date. You are lucky if the update trees even exist on the servers, by the time the first leaked iso is installed on someone's system. Users who knowingly pull leaked isos or knowingly search for leaked isos for their own use before updates are available aren't the problem. Its the subset of those users who communicate the location of leaked isos to other unsuspecting users in a way that is misleading and do not take the time to disclose that the iso is a leaked version and what that means in terms of expecations with regard to official update availability. Misinformation leads directly to unnecessarily frustration. This sort of conversation is just as inappropriate as meathead users telling newbies who are asking about test releases that test releases are "stable" and that they can be relied on for day-to-day usage, which I think we can all agree on is acting in bad faith. Withhold information about the "leaked" status of isos when communicating to other users who have not specifically asked for "leaked" isos is similarly acting in bad faith. -jef -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list