Apologies if I have caused a problem but I remember from my experiences with FC4 official release that some servers are never properly locked down, I went for a quick traul through the servers and low and behold some where open! I downloaded all the ISO (Less than 50mins for all 5 not bad) and decided to test them as I have been having issues with test1 and knew test2 would just be a updated test1 install with the latest packages. I thought it might help to solve the non boot issue I was having with T1, but unfortunately not, Udev is still a nightmare, with the latest kernels on my laptop, the last kernel to boot for me was 2.6.14-1.1719 and since then I have been without FC5. All I wanted to know was how to get a debug view of Udev so I can see where the problem is and get a bug report ready early for monday. Matt PS: Quick giving us enthusiastic bug testers a hard time! We just want clean installs to test! -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list