On Sat, 2005-10-15 at 19:34 -0700, Michael A. Peters wrote: > On Sat, 2005-10-15 at 19:16 -0700, Teak Billard wrote: > > What was the purpose? Is it that gnome would like > > people to move away from using terminal commands and > > stick with the GUI? Having a powerful terminal so > > easily accessible is what makes Linux attractive to > > me. > > I suspect it has more to do with consistent UI design. > The terminal is an application, Applications are launched from the > Application menu. > > >From a strictly UI perspective, it's probably proper to do what they are > doing. It's just legacy users who are already so use to it being > available the old way, and installing that nautilus-openterminal package > gives it back to us (though I have a surprising number of untitled > folders on my desktop ... ;) > > I don't know the real reason, but I suspect it was UI design reasons. As someone involved in the initial Fedora discussion about this, I recall that the rationale for removing it from the menu was as follows: * The terminal is a power user tool (which is why people on this list will miss it in the desktop menu) and as such wasn't part of the primary goals of GNOME, to design a desktop for users. * The current implementation was limited and by having it in a separate package you could do it much better. The nautilus-open-terminal package (yum install it) not only offers a terminal from the desktop, but from each nautilus window (and with the exception of the desktop, it defaults to the location your in. Much nicer. * You can get to a terminal simply by setting up keystrokes using Desktop > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts, which power users would find easy to do and doesn't require you having access to either the desktop or a nautilus window. Yes, you'll need to relearn some knee jerk habits, but overall this is a good decision (and I arked up about it when it first happened too). Rodd -- "It's a fine line between denial and faith. It's much better on my side" -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list