Why do they do top posting... simply because they use gmail to reply. fedora-test-list posters come from every place of the world and gmail is commonly used. On the contrary, other list may not have so many posters, and the posters use their formal email address instead of gmail. Often I think gmail should give an option to attach old message before/after the new one, and only attach one/two levels of old message. People who don't use gmail have a lot of control over this. And when they use a mail client instead of web interface, they carefully trim old messages before reply. .02 -- bbbush ^_^