Ok, with the latest below version of up2date, it FINALLY seems to work, almost! The two errors I see now, are if you select all and go to uncheck one of the packages, the forward button is no longer available (it fades out). Also, when it shows the progress bar and it's downloading headers to solve dependencies it is awfully slow (this is the one where after you select the packages, and click forward button), compared to running it via command line. up2date-gnome-4.4.23-3 up2date-4.4.23-3 -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's only funny until someone gets hurt...Then it's hilarious!"