> I downloaded and burned it three MORE seperate times > and it failed every single time!!! Definition of stupidity - Trying the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. He needs to understand. Listen to the words of the Jargon file. ( I probably got the names wrong ) "One day, Bill was working with an old lisp machine. He was power cycling it trying to get it to work. He did this over and over again to no avail. Then Bob came over and said, "Bill you cannot fix a problem without understanding it. Therefore power cycling the computer will do you more harm than good." Then Bob rebooted the computer... And it worked." -- kyle