Hey all: I've been happily using FC3 with binary nvidia drivers for a while. I've also been playing with rawhide, which is sweet, but a no go with binary nvidia drivers. If I remember correctly, FC3 test releases and the initial release itself could not handle the binary nvidia drivers due to changes in the kernel. Without flames, and understanding how evil binary drivers are, should I expect a significant delay and lots of screwing around between the release of FC4 and the nvidia drivers working? (I like to call this the nvidia dance.) I wish I didn't need the binary driver, but I have a laptop, and have found no other way to drive a second monitor ('twinview"), which I need to do when I give presentations. Sadly, this why windows is still on one of my partitions. -cjl