Unless I couldn't find it, it looked like the ALSA issues discussed on this list over the last few days weren't actually in bugzilla yet. I've added a bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=156592 I may not have included all the details; anyone else with info should probably add comments. MEF -- __ Mary Ellen Foster __ http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/mef/ __ "One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs." (Robert Firth)