On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 09:30:21AM -0700, Andy Ross wrote: > clearly undesirable and dumb. Imaging the flames if windows was > discovered to have a magic file that would fill up the filesystem if > you tried to copy it to a different folder. Why is this different? It's not different; it's identical. <http://www.ntfs.com/ntfs-sparse.htm> > (lastlog(8), which can only be run by root). If this thing went away > tomorrow, I doubt anyone would notice. Meaningful user login auditing > is done with other tools. Are there any other clients for this file, > anywhere? The 'finger' command uses it too. In this day and age, that's generally seen as a bad thing, though. :) And if the file isn't accessible (ie on fedora, you're not running as root) it silently falls back to saying "never logged in". > One could duplicate lastlog(8) using last(1) with a few lines of perl. > Can we please stop the fanboy flamewars? This file is a silly side > effect of the change to 32 bit UIDs, and needs to be fixed. Suggestion: write this drop-in replacement (although ideally not in perl -- python is kinda the fedora-tools-language-of-choice) for the lastlog command that does the same thing but uses the information from wtmp. Then, let's get that into extras, and eventually have it replace the shadow-utils command. Code speaks louder than flamewars. :) -- Matthew Miller mattdm@xxxxxxxxxx <http://www.mattdm.org/> Boston University Linux ------> <http://linux.bu.edu/> Current office temperature: 80 degrees Fahrenheit.