I am playing around with a thrustmaster force-feedback joystick. For now it is not recognized as a normal joystick. I tried to run jscal -c /dev/input/js0 on it, jscal dies: [repa@pascua evtest]$ jscal -c /dev/input/js0 Joystick has 29 axes and 10 buttons. Correction for axis 0 is none (raw), precision is 0. snip ................ Correction for axis 28 is broken line, precision is 255. Coeficients are: 28672, 36862, 21844, 21844 Calibrating precision: wait and don't touch the joystick. Bus error dmesg gives: jscal[23019] trap stack segment rip:400d2e rsp:7fffffaea360 error:0 Anyone else tried this? I suspect the excessive number of axes has something to do with the joystick. I also added the stick's vendor+device id's to the iforce module and re-compiled that. However input keeps grabbing the stick, iforce doesn't get it, even after it has been manually loaded and I then plug in the stick. dmesg again: usb 4-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 input: USB HID v1.00 Joystick [ThrustMaster HOTAS Force Feedback Joystick] on usb-0000:00:10.2-2 Any clues on how to stop input from grabbing the device? Ren�p.s. currently running 2.6.11-1.1363_FC4, x86_64