On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 08:35, Roger Grosswiler wrote: > i do know that fwbuilder as firestarter are in extras, but i still think, that fwbuiler is not really for newbs... Firewalls aren't for newbs. Anything more than checking a few boxes for the basic options and newbs shouldn't be doing it. If it looks really user friendly and stuff that just encourages them to think they can do it. And that is the absolute worst thing you could do. Ok, so that makes me an elitist bastard. So be it. -- John M. http://www.beau.org/~jmorris This post is 100% M$Free! Geekcode 3.1:GCS C+++ UL++++$ P++ L+++ W++ w--- Y++ b++ 5+++ R tv- e* r