On Tue, 2005-04-19 at 11:39 -0700, Mike Bird wrote: > Despite numerous complaints about the inadequacy of Grub, Redhat closed > this tracking item - falsely claiming that nothing can be done. > > It would be trivial to restore Lilo to FC4. The only thing standing in > the way is Redhat's arrogance. > > --Mike Bird Hi Mike, This thread has been going on for a while! It is really distracting a lot of people from helping Fedora make progress. You haven't given any specific, actionable examples of your claims of grub unreliability or unpredictability. >From what I gather, your judgement of lilo vs grub is a high-level assessment based mainly on your perception of the overall reliability and maturity of those two programs. No one is faulting you for liking lilo more than grub, and one of the things Fedora Extras is meant to facilitate is the choice of packages such as lilo. Your judgement seems wrong to many of us, but you're still very much entitled to it as far as your computer systems go. The people who had to make the decision for Fedora Core (including myself) realize that this is a judgement call that we may be wrong on in the long run. However, based on the current information we have available, we are comfortable with the current decision and its implications. In short, LILO is not coming back into Fedora Core. The tactics you are using to try to get your way are not going to work. Please stop posting to this thread. It'd be great if you would focus on cooperating with the others in the Fedora community. If there is anything I can do to help you get involved and contributing, please let me know. <list-master hat> Otherwise, I deem the LILO vs. GRUB thread _DEAD_. Everyone, STOP posting to it </list-master hat> -- Colin Charles, byte@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.bytebot.net/ "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi