Is it typical of this group to work around these types of problems by issuing something similar to: rpm -e kdesdk-devel and then doing a successful update or does the group block until a successful pull from the yum repository is clean for all packages? I would expect the earlier of committers not interested in that particular package set and the later of a true "testing" body. The difference is between being at the HEAD of the current driver with a satisfactory amount of packages and QA for the product as a whole. Newb, Steve -- Stephen Cuppett http://www.cuppett.com steve@xxxxxxxxxxx