Other than media check not working - FC4T2 so far has been very usable, at least for me. Maybe it's just me, but this is the first time since RH8 that Evolution has felt usable for me - and has not crashed at all in 24 hours of use - and it definitely feels a lot faster (connecting to imap server). This is really important to me because evolution seems to be the only gui imap client I can find on Linux (or windows) that properly handles using multiple smtp servers - picking the right one automatically based upon the From field. I'm sure there are still issues that need to be resolved, and probably some that effect me (the way that I use to make special spanish characters without having to use international deadkeys - ctrl-alt hexcode - no longer works but does weird stuff, like hiding all windows etc.) but I can't wait for the June date to come around so I can start using this on my main box. It really feels good, fonts are yet again improved - and it at least feels faster than FC3, which is nice as I _really_ need to buy more ram. Hopefully my unsupported way of doing special Spanish characters can either be fixed, or another way found - I really hate dead keys, especially when doing lots of things at once, but this test release really feels good. Thanks to all involved for the effort. With the grub/lilo debate - I think sometimes we common users forget to express when we are thankful for what the developers are doing, and I think sometimes it needs to be heard. Special thanks to Seth for all the work with yum and getting Extras to where it is today. -=- (I sent this initially to the wrong list - it should get bounced because I'm not subscribed from the from address, but in case not - sorry for the cross post)