...and grub allows for a more of a sparc or bsd-style boot loader, where you can specify the kernel you want to boot without needing to reload lilo and it's more modern and looks better and..... the arguments for grub vs. lilo aren't that lilo is better, it's that lilo is working for someone where grub specifically doesn't. in my previously mentioned problem, disk druid trashed my partition table but all the other tools didn't. so I'll ask this question then : if redhat (this is a core issue, they control core) is desiring that lilo be phased out (not a bad idea in itself) and that disk druid be the partition editor of choice (far prettier and easier to use than sfdisk! :) and that other tools that used to work but suck in comparison to modern tools be eliminated, then can we at least make a "deprecated" list and say "these tools will be eliminated from the final distribution [once the test releases are done] so if you need them can you let us know so we can work out the bugs in the tools we want to use instead"? Dana Lacoste -----Original Message----- From: Graydon [mailto:graydon@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 15:49 To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases Subject: Re: FC4t2 no good without LILO On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 03:23:59PM -0700, Dana Lacoste scripsit: > This one's for Peter Jones. > > He was whining about not having specific information > and not willing to look in the archives. > > Well, here it is. You ignored it earlier, will you answer it now? > > grub doesn't work. > > lilo fixes problem. That one got a long answer; one of the things in the answer is that, sure, it boots, but it boots because lilo doesn't check that it knows how to deal with the partition and will cheerfully do things that involve high risks of data corruption and altered partition sizes. Grub does check, and will refuse to boot if all it's going to do is damage your data. Grub's behaviour strikes me as preferable. -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list