Re: flac, gstreamer-plugins, etc.

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Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 21:42:34 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote:


mplayer from livna?


mplayer is not mentioned in the error output at all, but gstreamer-plugins
is. And "livna" does not offer packages for FC4T1/Rawhide anyway.


On my system, mplayer was mentioned in the output of conflicts with the same packages installed. This system is an FC3 version that I chose to install everything and then upgraded multimedia and extras packages from the repos needed.


Fine, fine. But "Gene C.", who opened this thread, did not post any error
output which mentions mplayer and did not mention an FC3 upgrade either,
but an "everything install of FC4T1". So, what are you trying to point
out?

Not an everything install of FC4T1. It was an eveything install of FC3. I had to pull in kernel-devel to get vmware to work and also the additional xscreensavers-extras. The pointing out that this was an everything install was to indicate that other than the removal of langpacks for openoffice and the removal of additional language packages for kde, everything is installed. With everything installed, it is more likely that there will be more packages that could conflict in the database.



Since Fedora Extras is not supposed to be dependent on livna, the multimedia (mplayer in this case) sounds like it might become a problem with worthy repositories like livna.


Here, I don't understand either what you're trying to point out. The
dependency is in the opposite direction: livna depends on Fedora Extras.
But as long as the packages at livna are not rebuilt for FC4 Test
releases (or Rawhide), you cannot keep FC3 livna packages installed
without seeing broken dependencies with Rawhide.

I thought about the direction that deps could be after posting. So without having livna as a repo, you should be able to install packages from either Fedora-Extras or from Fedora Core. This seems rational.

Regarding the deps against a package that I have installed, which is not upgraded to play well with the lib versions in FC4T1, I expected the deps to be unresolved and was willing to hold back the 10 to 15 rpms that were effected. The limitation is not holding me back now, but flac was the holdup before and errors pointed to k3b (from Fedora) and to mplayer (from livna).

Now referring to the dep problem, I would like an update program capable of installing programs that deps could be met. The last massive rebuild had 94 rpms that could be upgrade with script trickery using the package selection from yum. I installed another 8 rpms after the first run with using the same script method for round 2. This left the multimedia related packages in earlier postings not upgradable, but no deps were broken previously. It is possible to devise such a program that could do its best and report back unmet dep resolutions. Scripting hacks work, but the distribution would be better served with a program that also had builtin capabilities to do this upgrading/resolving without the need for additional scripts.

Jim




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