On Apr 5, 2005 2:24 PM, seth vidal <skvidal@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > So, I'm going to give you a hearty FUCK YOU. > > You do some actual work, then you get to complain. > Otherwise you get to the shut the fuck up. > -sv Seth, ... It is possible for someone to point out faults with the current state of affairs without making a personal attack against you. I don't think anyone here is placing any direct fault on you, and I think it is really unproductive for you to respond to every concern people have about EXTRAS with this kind of temper tantrum. Your work is both valuable and appreciated. The idea of moving components from core to extras appears to be a solid idea. But there are some concerns that arise from the differing maintains and development realities of core and extras that need to be discussed, and hopefully be resolved. Rather than being insulted when the inevitable discussions occur, why not ask "What am I doing wrong?", "What other important project would you like me to drop in order to fix this?", and "Is there any consensus that this is important, or even a problem?". If you would like others to avoid discussing matters that they don't have solutions for, or are unwilling to work towards a solution for... then you should set an example by either being constructive or avoiding the discussions youself.