I don't feel qualified to create feature/bug distinctions. I will just report what I have done. Restarting this morning with a clean install, hardware as follows: System looks like this: Gigabyte GA-K8NS motherboard [nForce3 250 chipset] AMD64 2800+ 1.0G DDR400 ram 30G Maxator ide [lost the rest of the documentation] 70G Seagate sata Yesterday, I could not get a working install to the sata drive. This morning I have after 4 tries. Only by accepting automatic partitioning, NOT requesting an option to include an entry for the FC4T1 installation on the other drive, could I not bomb out on a python script error, or install a system that could not find the kernel. I requested 'disable' for selinux, and selected 'everything' on the final go. With the system up, having taken root: In the midst of update with rhn. Key installed. Package select all does not work. There are duplicate entries in thelist displayed. I am selecting by hand. Thu Mar 17 09:40:11 EST 2005 Selection process seems to have just locked up. All I am running is this terminal window and Kysguard, which show a massive overload of nothing in particular, gdm specifically. up2date package selector is toast. Killing it out. 03/17/2005-09:51:16 AM-EST in /etc/sysconfig/desktop: DESKTOP="KDE" DISPLAYMANAGER="KDE" I will need to shut down and see if this works. 03/17/2005-10:00:14 AM-EST I had to reboot in order to switch display managers. Just restarting xwindows did not do the trick. Noted failures on the reboot: ccsd smartd I could not log on as root with the new login manager. But I can live with that. Ksysguard shows the kdm running essentially zero load. 03/17/2005-10:05:16 AM-EST Retrying up2date, since more cycles are available. No joy. It works up to the package selection dialog. I can't select just one package and proceed with an upgrade. 03/17/2005-10:14:10 AM-EST I am running: yum update And it is doing something - flaking out. I am restarting: yum -t update Nope. 03/17/2005-10:38:11 AM-EST I am trying: yum -t update kde* But first: yum remove jpilot And then: yum -t update kde* I will have to get up2date, or preferably yum working before I can go further with this project. I have read the yum man page, but I seem to be missing something. -Jpearson