Prompted by Pete Zaitcev's blog: http://www.livejournal.com/users/zaitcev/18495.html seen on the Feodra People planet, I had a quick check in Rawhide and can't see Pan anymore. I'm subscribed to fedora-list and fedora-test- list, and I've just looked through the web archives of fedora-desktop- list, fedora-devel-list and fedora-extras-list and can't seem to find any hint of where the discussion to (apparently) move Pan from Core to Extras happened. Can anyone point me in the direction of a URL? I have to say that I have long had certain dissatisfactions with Pan (GTK2 but not GNOME, non-HIG compliance, UI confusion) but when all is said and done it still seems better to me than the other options. Evolution's NNTP support is really primitive, and Thunderbird lacks many of the things I'd expect from a proper NNTP client which Pan had. What is the default newsreader in Fedora Core now? Best, Darren -- ===================================================================== D. D. Brierton darren@xxxxxxxxxxx www.dzr-web.com Trying is the first step towards failure (Homer Simpson) =====================================================================