Yowza. Oops. I just noticed that misread your question 'Are you sure its nvidia that needs a fix?' as 'Are you sure that its not nvidia that needs a fix?' Don't know why my mind put that 'not' in there. Anyhow, I will now quietly take a step into the background and resolve not to respond to threads that know next to nothing about (i.e.: nVidia binary-only drivers, in this case). :-/ BTW: I'm as annoyed as you are at the suggestion to avoid updates due to proprietary binary-only bits. -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets