On Sun, 19 Dec 2004, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:24:17 +0100 (CET), Dag Wieers wrote: > > > > > Thanks. Each scheme will have advantages and disadvantages. None of my > > > > users have complained so far and we've explained why it is there. So it's > > > > strange that outsiders have a problem with it, while everyone using it > > > > don't care :) > > > > > > Users don't complain about implementation details. They want the whole > > > thing to "just work". They don't care what magic is used to make one > > > package be seen as newer than another. You could even use the internal > > > Epoch as a serial number (like old "Serial:" tag is still used by some > > > people). Users complain as soon as the whole thing breaks or results in > > > unexpected behaviour (such as compatible repositories upgrading eachother > > > unnecessarily). > > > > No no, most of the users do want a disttag and repotag. This mailinglist > > does not reflect that because very few people here are actual users. > > What an irony. I bet those users are mislead by the repotag inflation and > don't consider looking for alternatives. Tell users how to query vendor, > distribution and signature fields, after those are used properly by > all parties involved. No no, read the list of advantages. None of the proposed work-arounds offer the same set of advantages. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-December/msg00498.html > > Yes, my first paragraph was wrong, for some reason I thought fedora.us > > finally decided to have disttags. > > Funnily, they have had disttags since day one, because it is implemented > in the buildsystem: rh80 -> rh90 -> 1 -> 2 -> 3 in right-most part of > release. I'm not going into a loop with regard to discussing them. Ok. But 1 and 2 is very Fedora centric and has no purpose in the larger scale of things that exist. How would one know whether 3 means FC3 or EL3? It's out of scope for Fedora Extras and therefor unacceptable as a scheme to me and others. (Consider also Aurora, Yellow Dog, and other projects that perfectly fit inside the same Extras work) -- dag wieers, dag@xxxxxxxxxx, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [all I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited power]