On Sat, 2004-12-18 at 23:13 +0100, Dag Wieers wrote: > On Sat, 18 Dec 2004, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > > On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 11:58:45 +0100, nodata <fedora@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > An rpm tool doesn't care about the filename, so why remove it? > > > > You have missed the point entirely. The filaname for an rpm is > > typically constructed from a number of header tags as part of the > > build process. The distrotags that are being used arent just in the > > filename they are in the RELEASE tag. You can have this sort of > > information in the filename without having it in the RELEASE tag. > > Maybe you don't understand, the rpm tool does care about what is in > > the RELEASE tag, because the release tag is used during version > > comparisons when you want to decide what is newer or older for > > updates. > > Jeff, I know you didn't read the whole thread, but let me give you a > summary: > > The current scheme has the following advantages: > > + It does not require a change to RPM (and works for _all_ distributions) > > + It does not require a change to other RPM based tools like > Yum/Apt/up2date/smart > > + It allows the user to recognize the vendor: > > + from the filename (ls) > + from the package-list output (rpm -qa) > + from the output of tools like Yum/Apt/up2date/smart > > + It allows the user to recognize what distribution it was build for > > + from the filename (ls) > + from the package-list output (rpm -qa) > + from the output of tools like Yum/Apt/up2date/smart > > + It enables users to do file manipulations based on the filename > > + It allows people to build trust for packages because the source becomes > visible (this works in both ways, if a package is good or bad) > > + It does not intervene with version comparison in a dramatic way (as > the release tag only makes sense in a single vendor namespace anyway) > > > Seth calls it branding, which is a term that disregards all these > advantages. > > PS Can you please not reply with paragraphs that span my whole terminal > window as I tend to skim these anyway. Please stick to the point. > > -- dag wieers, dag@xxxxxxxxxx, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- > [all I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited power] > I am *all over* that. Sounds like a great breakdown of the advantages. I like it. -- =Guy