On Mon, 2004-11-15 at 18:49 +0000, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I guess I'm not really convinced that sufficient time and effort > is devoted by the Fedora team to ironing out installation problems. > [My view is strengthened by the fact that > a simple patch to xorg-x11 posted over 6 months ago - not by me - > has still not been applied, > although this means that X will not run on my Sony Picturebook, > and I assume on most other Picturebooks too. > If you are interested you will find some info on this > at http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~tim/Picturebook/ .] Which Bugzilla number is this? The URL only gives a binary RPM and an xorg.conf, the only info I could draw from that is that the Pictureboook apparently has a display with 1024x480 pixels ;-). > I must confess I have this niggling feeling > that Redhat may not feel it is in their interest > for Fedora to be too easy to install and use, > as this might lesses the attraction of their commercial system. FC development is fed directly into what becomes the next RHEL release. Even though FC is not a product to be sold, we try to make it as good as any RHL release in the past, if only not to run into problems later when we base a RHEL version on it. What you don't break you don't need to fix ;-). There are quite some more reasons why we want to make every FC release the best we can. Granted, there are always some things that fall short of that goal when we have a time-based development cycle, but from a user's perspective I'd rather have that than waiting years for a final release. > I hope someone will tell me this is nonsense. Sure it is ("we strive to please" ;-). I have used Red Hat Linux/Fedora for quite a while and my (obviously biased) opinion is that things have overall went for the better. It is clear that there isn't a guarantee that updates/replacements in new versions don't introduce the one or the other "regression" (real bugs, new tool Y misses feature Z from replaced tool X, ...) but all in all I'd say that the recent RHL/FC versions have always been better than their predecessors -- with the occasional brown paper bag in between. I dare say that we have evolved from the "don't use .0 releases"-age (granted we don't have .0 releases anymore, but I think you get my point). In other words: As I'm the one taking care of the computers at home I dictate the OS -- the Windows 98 box is used only for the occasional game or IKEA kitchen planner ;-). As a result from that my wife comes to me when things are broken and I think the number of complaints has been decreasing over the time. What more can I ask for? Nils -- Nils Philippsen / Red Hat / nphilipp@xxxxxxxxxx "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- B. Franklin, 1759 PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011
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