For example: # system-config-securitylevel The program 'system-config-securitylevel' received an X Window System error. This probably reflects a bug in the program. The error was 'BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)'. (Details: serial 66 error_code 3 request_code 25 minor_code 0) (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously; that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it. To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.) kwrite does the same thing, but system-config-services worked fine. Server is running FC3 server install with X windows and KDE enabled. No problems running these apps natively. Recently ran yum update and received a new ssh and kernel. Server: # rpm -q openssh openssh-3.9p1-7 kernel = 2.6.9.678 Host is running FC3. Host: rpm -q openssh openssh-3.9p1-7 kernel = 2.6.9.677 -- Kim Lux (Mr.) Diesel Research Inc