On Mon, 2004-11-15 at 21:01 -0600, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote: > On Sat, 2004-11-13 at 08:04 -0500, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > Several people have been vocal... and in the past 2+ years several > > people have gotten excited by the idea, and then wandered off never to > > return with something other people can test. > > > > Bullshit. > > Every release since Red Hat Linux 9, I have carefully pruned the minimal > install down to a significantly smaller size while respecting every > bloody dependency and still keeping the system friendly for even a > newbie. Admittedly this is a chubbier "minimal" package list than the > "just-boot-the-box" crowd may want, but it's still on average 200MB > smaller than the distro's version. > > Every time, I write a HOWTO on trimming the fat from the install. Every > time, about 500 people per month read the thing. > > Every time, I try to offer feedback to the developers. I requested the > separation of vim-common (10MB!) from vim-minimal (450K), and I > requested the removal of rhpl's dependency on synaptics just now for FC3 > (which will be patched later). > > > Maybe I missed something, > > > > No kidding. I see Satish already posted the interim URL to my latest doc > for FC3; check it again if you already read it as I just posted a more > recent version. > > > but I haven't seen an alternative comps.xml file show up in the devel > > or test list for community to test. > > I just found that file, for the first time in my life. No one ever > suggested it to me, and I can find no documentation for it. In the YEARS > that I have worked on this one subject, NOT ONE DAMN PERSON has ever > said "hey... go modify the comps.xml file". Check the archives, all I do > is publicly posted. > > It's 8000 lines long for Chrissakes, and even if I'm sure I can > eventually parse it that's NOT the point. You want a comps.xml file? > Then bloody freaking make it clear to people who are NOT programmers how > to read and write the thing. Don't go mouthing off about no one doing > any work. > > Frankly, I'm not only pissed at your attitude, I'm also disappointed by > it. Not the usual intelligent, productive, and useful commentary I > expect from you. Can you at least point me to a doc showing the > structure of that thing, so we get some value out of your contribution > to this thread? > > *grmbl* *grmbl* *hiss* > > -- > Rodolfo J. Paiz <rpaiz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > my vote for best vent of the year. Rodolfo, could you post your minimal install doc link here please? thanks. -- =Guy 21:16:05 up 8:42, 2 users, load average: 1.08, 0.86, 0.58