Peter: I give you the highest regard for your stance. You and I think alike. Let me know what you want me to do and test and I'll help as much as I can. For what it is worth, I've had issues with RH and cdparanoia before. If you look in the cdparanoia archives, I reported similar problems (on a different machine with a different CDROM) in RH8 2 years ago. Would it help for me to build a debug version of cdparanoia ? Do you have a debug version of the kernel you'd like me to run ? -- Kim Lux (Mr.) Diesel Research Inc