On Tue, 2004-11-02 at 21:05 -0500, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote: > On Tue, 2004-11-02 at 10:47 -0500, Amitabha Roy wrote: > > Latest rawhide networkmanager is now asking for a password for a > > wireless network > > which I know is not encrypted! > > How can I get NetworkManagerInfo to prompt me for a WEP key?? I can't > for the life of me get this to work, and I REALLY want to.... Some of these issues are fixed in CVS already, but not in FC3 since FC3 is locked. I'm going to release updates after FC3 is release that should alleviate many of these issues. Bear in mind though, that its very, very hard to figure out if you have a link to the access point. Some cards report a link even when they could not possibly have authenticated and associated with the access point (atmel cards using shared key with the wrong WEP key), other cards stubbornly refuse to switch their ESSID no matter how many times you set it (3 Orinoco-based cards I've tried), and others are just plain broken. Windows Gets This Right in driverland by forcing some amount of consistency among wireless drivers, but We Utterly Suck. Its a slow process getting fixes upstream into the kernel. So, if we have a very hard time figuring out whether you have a link to the access point or not, its hard to do networking stuff with any certainty. Were you doing this manually, you'd fumble around for 10 seconds figuring out that your WEP key was wrong, or that you set the wrong authentication mode on the card, and you'd have to change it from the command line. That's a non-starter for users. This Stuff Should Just Work, which is what NetworkManager tries to do. Do you ever see Windows users configuring their wireless card with all the arcane options that iwconfig has? No, mostly its automatic, even more so on Windows XP with Wireless Zero Config. The process that NM goes through to figure out if you have a link the AP or not is basically this: while NOT ((valid reported AP MAC addres) && (no invalid encrypted packets received)) <ie, we don't have a link> { if (encrypted AP ) Ask For A Key since what we have is wrong, since we failed to connect already attempt to connect with ESSID and WEP key } Ad nauseum. So evidentally, the card is reporting an invalid MAC address, or it takes too long to negotiate a connection, or you're getting invalid encrypted packets. The invalid encrypted packets happen when the card cannot decrypt a packet with the WEP key that's set. This little check is to help with Open System mode, where you can still connect to the AP event though the WEP key may be wrong. Try it, your card will still report a valid MAC address, even though you CAN'T SEND OR RECEIVE TRAFFIC. This is just plain broken, but its how Open System works on Linux. So, and I'm at a loss here, how do we figure out your WEP key is wrong without waiting 30s for DHCP to time out? That's why you don't use Open System. It sucks. Privacy concerns are mostly unfounded, since anyone who can crack your WEP key doesn't really care whether you're using Shared Key as long as you're using WEP. If you have WEP turned on, you're vulnerable. Dan