On Mon, 1 Nov 2004, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote: > On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 00:42 -0600, Satish Balay wrote: > > yum doesn't depend on synaptics. (so removing up2date should be ok) > > And I don't see the cups depending on synaptics... > > > > Satish, I can't seriously believe you find it OK for all that stuff you > listed to depend on synaptics. Besides, on my RC5 system that's not all. > Attempting to remove xorg-x11-libs and xorg-x11-Mesa-libGL says they are > required by synaptics, which in turn is required by rhpl, and there goes > most of the Fedora-specific stuff like up2date. > > Attempting to remove cups takes a similar path, since freetype and > fontconfig depend on xorg* and there you go. So yes, unless I remove > rhpl and up2date, I cannot remove synaptics. > > I just do not find it reasonable that the dependencies of a touchpad can > be that far-reaching. Well - you want to remove all x/gui packages anyway - and most (if not all) synaptic dependent packages (including up2date) are gui packages anyway - hence should be reomved (according to your minimal spec) And I didn't think loosing up2date was a big deal - as yum would suffice in your minimal install. At one point - I thought you wanted to remove python as well - in which case you can fall-back on 'apt' to provide updates. There is always a tradeoff on pushing synaptics into 'rhpl' - now multiple tools that might depend-on/configure synaptics can now use some common code from 'rhpl'. Perhaps you could argue that rhpl should be split up into rhpl/rhpl-gui (not sure if this is feasiable or justified) Could you list which packgaes you'd like to see gone (and are unable to remove) - which would add up to the 40M of savings? Synaptics by itself is 40k - so thats not it.<I'd like to see your listing from 'yum remove'> Satish