I have a launcher to launch gnome-terminal with a specific geometry on FC2 that works thus: gnome-terminal -geometry=80x34 Moving things to FC3rc3 the geometry flag seems to be changed to the double dash style -- flag thus: gnome-terminal --geometry=80x34 Did I miss something? Is this only gnome-terminal? This could be a moderately large change if it is more than gnome-terminal? Off to review release notes I guess. It is consistent with lots of things so I am not avert to the change just surprised or I have been sleeping... Later, tom -- T o m M i t c h e l l May your cup runneth over with goodness and mercy and may your buffers never overflow.