On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 08:21:05PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > > This is deliberate. We want Emacs as part of the default installation > for all of us Emacs weenies, but Emacs is not a typical end user > application, What is this mythical "typical end user"? Ask my wife who has nothing to do with any computer programming. A machine without emacs simply for her does not exist or maybe it some kind of toaster. This is a basic and indispensable tool. Michal