Here is another thought about backup files: I wish they moved with the parent file when the parent file is moved. For example: my wife used my session the other day to record a recipe for Yam Casseroles from her friend. I didn't lock down my terminal ! So, I've got "Yam Casserole" on my desktop. (And its backup.) I dislike it on my desktop, so I move it to a folder. She uses my terminal again and opens the file and edits it. We've now got a second copy of Yam Casserole backup. My wife asks me to email it to her. I do. She opens her email on my computer in her session this time. She opens Yam Casserole and edits it. We've now got a 3rd copy of the Yam Casserole backup ! The things multiply ! Now what if she loses her copy of Yam Casserole and asks me if there is a backup ? Lets say she can't remember where she last used it. I have to search all of my dirs and all of her dirs to find all the versions of the Yam Casserole backups and then get the latest one. I think this is a bit of a pain. I think the current backup file usage was great back in the day when files didn't move around a lot and everything was displayed with ls. (You could use -B as someone pointed out.) With desktops and file managers and data sharing like it is today, I think it might be time to improve how backups are handled. I'll shut up now ! Thanks for listening. -- Kim Lux (Mr.) <lux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>