You should learn two very important things before spouting off at the mouth (or keyboard) like this again. 1) Security best practices (not your idea of it, but from experts in the field). 2) The different goals between the Fedora Project and RHEL -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets