On Saturday 23 October 2004 15:22, Paul wrote: > > > I can't remember if FC1 was the first one to use xorg-x11 rather than > > > XF86. If it was, > > > > No, FC2 was the first to take this disastrous step. > > Not sure. Why was it such a bad step? I have a Sony Picturebook (C1VFK). To run X on this one has to apply a tiny patch which was sent to bugzilla 6 months ago: <http://freedesktop.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=591> Unfortunately the patch has not been applied to xorg-x11, although the bugzilla is marked as resolved. I have emailed 7 people whose names I came across in connection the the "ati" driver (the Picturebook uses the ATI Rage Mobility system) but none have replied. (The email was perfectly polite; I just asked them to ensure the patch was applied, if it was anything to do with them, or else to pass on my message to an appropriate person.) My impression from the Xorg mailing list is that the team is overwhelmed with all the issues that arise. For example, as far as I can see only one person is involved with the ATI driver. I suspect they are trying to do clever things before ensuring that the basic structure is secure. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland