On 1/23/25 6:04 PM, John Mellor wrote:
On 2025-01-23 5:32 p.m., Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 1/23/25 2:17 PM, John Mellor wrote:
On 2025-01-23 2:51 p.m., Adam Williamson wrote:
On Thu, 2025-01-23 at 06:00 +0000, George R Goffe via test wrote:
. . .
2) Are we forgetting why we have the concept of statically linked
binaries?
What does that have to do with where they are?
If I may offer some insight:
In the Unix philosophy, everything in /sbin is statically linked.
Things in /bin may be statically linked, but more normally are
dynamic. The root user PATH normally has /sbin and /usr/sbin before
the others, while normal users have that reversed or even leave /sbin
and /usr/sbin out altogether. This makes a difference when you are
trying to recover a system in the middle of the night. With tools
like vi, sed, grep, mount etc. being statically linked, there are
less dependencies required to get basic recovery tools working,
increasing the likelihood that you can get the system at least
partially back up without having to reinstall and lose mission-
critical data.
sbin being for static binaries is ancient history. More recently it's
for system (superuser) binaries. I checked my sbin directory and the
only statically linked binary there is "ldconfig".
Yes, its been broken for a lot of releases now. The people who make
these decisions are not admins with critical resources to keep flying.
This has nothing to do with Fedora. As far as I can remember, sbin has
never been for static binaries. Maybe in ancient Unix systems, but I
didn't have any consideration about that when using them at the time.
The FHS even says the sbin is *system* binaries, not static. Do you
know of any distro that puts static binaries in sbin? The only static
binaries I can find on my system are ldconfig and the qemu static
executables.
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