On Mon, 2021-03-15 at 09:35 -0500, Brandon Nielsen wrote: > On 3/14/21 10:13 AM, Ben Cotton wrote: > > In the wake of the BZ 1924808[1] discussion in Thursday's Go/No-Go > > meeting[2], I am proposing an addition to the Basic Release > > Criteria[3]. This would go into Post-Install Requirements -> Expected > > installed system boot behavior -> First boot utilities (appended after > > the existing sentence): > > > > > If a utility for creating user accounts and other configuration is configured to launch, it must be visible within 10 seconds of the first boot reaching the launch point. > > > > Why 10 seconds? Why not? That sort of feels like the maximum length of > > time someone could reasonably be expected to wait. A shorter time > > might be better. > > > > I don't particularly love the wording here, but I wanted to make it > > clear that it's not 10 seconds from power on, but 10 seconds from the > > time the boot up reaches the state where we expect gnome-initial-setup > > or its counterparts to appear. > > > > > > [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1924908 > > [2] https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/sresults/?group_id=f34-beta-go_no_go-meeting&type=team > > [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria#Expected_installed_system_boot_behavior > > > > I like it. > > Can we also add a "and displayed without error" clause, or maybe > "completes with no visible error"? Something to explicitly capture the > "sad face" bug[0]. We actually have this already, pretty much, for Final: "There must be no SELinux denial notifications or crash notifications on boot of or during installation from a release-blocking live image, or at first login after a default install of a release-blocking desktop." It was envisaged to cover desktop notifications, but I'd say it seems reasonable to count it as covering the "Oh no" screen too. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ test mailing list -- test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to test-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure