On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 2:01 AM Kamil Paral <kparal@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 12:30 PM Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> GNOME applications pull in most of the GNOME desktop as dependencies. >> Properly developed KDE applications will pull in the KF5 libraries and >> occasionally some Plasma libraries. That's just how it goes. It is >> also unrealistic to expect GNOME applications to work fully "to spec" >> on KDE because KDE does not provide all the D-Bus interfaces and >> services that GNOME does. We can and do have quirks when applications >> are transplanted from one desktop environment to another, if the >> underlying frameworks don't handle this well. While most of the KDE >> frameworks adapt well to a non-KDE environment, it's rare that GNOME >> applications fully do, especially ones that depend on things like >> gnome-settings-daemon, gnome-shell, or gnome-control-center. In the >> case of gnome-sound-recorder, it'll be fine as it's quite simple. But >> if you were using something like the GNOME screencast app, that would >> fail in KDE. Note that I'm specifically saying "GNOME applications". >> Plain GTK applications are generally fine on Plasma. > > > Neal, you're doing a great job in Fedora, but this made me somewhat angry. Because I *did* spend the time yesterday, installed KDE in a VM from scratch, and tested gnome-sound-recorder, audacity and kwave in it. And sounds like you haven't. Gnome-sound-recorder only pulls in gjs and libhand1, and that's *all*. It's the most minimal application I could find. I also tested its functionality, it worked without issues. I stand by my opinion that this is the best sound recorder to recommend. Your reaction is the tribalism I was talking about, negatively reacting to anything that has "GNOME" or "K" in the name. > I specifically said that GNOME Sound Recorder is fine because it's simple, but the majority of GNOME applications are *not*. But I was responding *specifically* to your comment about tribalism, because you suggested that all desktop applications for each desktop work fine on other desktops. That's not true, especially for highly integrated applications (which a lot of GNOME ones *are*). > Audacity is OK, but it's UI is quite old, it crashes every time I close it, and it pulls more dependencies (11 more packages in KDE). It's a decent fallback option, but I wouldn't recommend it as the first one. > I'm surprised that it crashes so much. That's unfortunate... > KWave pulls a zillion packages on GNOME systems (over 50 packages) and it's UI is the worst of the three, at least from a beginner perspective. KDE applications have larger dependency webs because of the KF5 libraries, I'm not surprised. As for the UI, yeah, I don't disagree there. It's closer to Audacity than a simple sound recorder. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ test mailing list -- test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to test-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
