2020-11-30 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes

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#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA Meeting
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Meeting started by adamw at 16:01:37 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2020-11-30/fedora-qa.2020-11-30-16.01.log.html
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Meeting summary
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* Roll call  (adamw, 16:01:47)

* Previous meeting follow-up  (adamw, 16:10:43)
  * there are no action items from last time  (adamw, 16:11:23)
  * work on blockerbugs improvements is moving along nicely  (adamw,
    16:14:11)

* Fedora 34 status and Changes  (adamw, 16:14:27)
  * we had about a week of no composes for various reasons  (adamw,
    16:14:44)
  * we finally got a compose again a couple of days ago, I have not
    finished digging into the bugs that showed up in it yet, but it's in
    the "broadly OK but some broken stuff" category  (adamw, 16:15:07)
  * some Change proposals are ruffling feathers on devel@, the latest
    being a proposal to replace Pulseaudio and JACK by default with a
    new system called Pipewire which is intended to supersede both
    (adamw, 16:16:10)
  * the current test plan for the pipewire Change is thin:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DefaultPipeWire#How_To_Test
    (adamw, 16:22:03)
  * it would be good if we could beef that test plan up a bit, ideally
    using proper test cases so we can organize test days  (adamw,
    16:23:07)
  * ACTION: lruzicka to look into working up a better test plan for the
    pipewire change  (adamw, 16:27:26)

* IRC vs. Matrix  (adamw, 16:29:53)
  * Matrix is an open source, open standard, federated chat system in
    the modern style - it presents more like something like Slack or
    Discord than IRC: https://matrix.org/  (adamw, 16:30:58)
  * various Fedora groups are looking into moving to using it over IRC,
    including - recently - the Council  (adamw, 16:31:26)
  * we could consider doing the same in QA  (adamw, 16:31:40)
  * there is a webapp client called Element which many folks use -
    https://app.element.io/ , there is a "desktop" version of Element
    which is mostly just a thin wrapper around a browser library, and
    there are some real "desktop" clients. Most are available as
    Flatpaks, one called quaternion is in the repos  (adamw, 16:34:10)
  * you can already access #fedora-qa on IRC through Matrix; there is a
    native Matrix room which is bridged to the IRC channel, the alias
    for it is #fedora-qa:matrix.org  (adamw, 16:39:53)
  * ACTION: adamw to look into details of matrix hosting, like can rooms
    be moved across homeservers  (adamw, 16:45:14)
  * ACTION: adamw to look into more details around Matrix and make a
    more specific proposal if it still seems like a good idea in the new
    year  (adamw, 16:53:05)
  * it seems sumantro isn't around, so we'll skip the next topic
    (adamw, 16:54:24)

* Open floor  (adamw, 16:54:26)

* Test Day / community event status  (adamw, 16:55:29)
  * we don't have much going on with events right now, sumantro just
    came back from time off  (adamw, 16:58:39)
  * there may be an onboarding call mid-december  (adamw, 16:59:23)

* Open floor  (adamw, 16:59:28)

Meeting ended at 17:02:46 UTC.




Action Items
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* lruzicka to look into working up a better test plan for the pipewire
  change
* adamw to look into details of matrix hosting, like can rooms be moved
  across homeservers
* adamw to look into more details around Matrix and make a more specific
  proposal if it still seems like a good idea in the new year




Action Items, by person
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* adamw
  * adamw to look into details of matrix hosting, like can rooms be
    moved across homeservers
  * adamw to look into more details around Matrix and make a more
    specific proposal if it still seems like a good idea in the new year
* lruzicka
  * lruzicka to look into working up a better test plan for the pipewire
    change
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




People Present (lines said)
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* adamw (99)
* kparal (24)
* zodbot (12)
* lruzicka (10)
* sumantro (6)
* Southern_Gentlem (4)
* copperi (4)
* cmurf (3)
* pwhalen (1)
* bcotton (1)




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