For anyone who's not subscribed to devel@: it seems we're going ahead with getting an official Fedora Matrix homeserver. Given the generally positive/interested vibe in the last meeting, once this is up and running I'm going to propose we have a QA room there, bridged to #fedora-qa on Freenode, and make it our "primary" chat location. That will effectively mean that we provide links/instructions for Matrix rather than IRC in wiki pages, event announcements and so on. I'll send a more detailed proposal in the new year (today's my last working day for this year). Thanks folks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net
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- Subject: summary of matrix/element chat discussion
- From: Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 12:18:55 -0500
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As promised, a summary of our video call for those who couldn't attend: Highlights * Red Hat’s Open Source Program Office is interested in this experiment and will fund hosted Element out of non-Fedora budget. That makes going ahead with a practical trial basically a no-brainer. * We’ll have own hosted server at https://chat.fedoraproject.org/, and Element will provide a 1-day admin SLA at the level we’re getting. So, it won’t require ongoing CPE or volunteer resources at the sysadmin level. We’ll still need moderators and active admins of course. * Log in will be through FAS, and we’ll also federate the server so you can come in with a different identity. * Mozilla has seen a 4× increase in engagement since switching from IRC to Matrix (also hosted by Element). Also successful for KDE and SUSE. In progress at GNOME. :) * IRC isn’t going anywhere. Many people still like it, and Freenode is still an important hub for free and open source software development. So, we will provide bridges. * These bridges will be set up in a way that avoids some of the problems the GNOME project shared with their deployment. * I had a concern that Zodbot would need to be ported immediately because of problems I’d heard about logged meetings, but we’re assured that those might be non-issues or at least easily fixed, which is nice for a soft-launch / experiment with no big infrastructure changes right off. * On a slightly more controversial note: we know that the bridge can be somewhat annoying when Matrix decides it wants to send a URL rather than a long message, and that things like reactions just don’t get bridged. Our plan here, assuming the trial is successful, is to try and minimize these inconveniences but ultimately steer people to using Matrix natively. Many popular messaging clients (including weechat, for old-school folks) support Matrix directly now. * When will this start? Basically as soon as the money is worked out. Full notes at: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/the-future-of-real-time-chat-discussion-for-the-fedora-council/24628/27?u=mattdm -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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