On Tue, 2020-08-04 at 00:49 -0600, Geoffrey Marr wrote: > At today's blocker review meeting[0], we ran across a bug[1] that we > believe is bad enough to warrant blocker status, but as the criteria > currently stand, does not violate any particular criterion. The bug in > question has to do with logging out of one user account and logging into > another account that has already been accessed before during that boot. The > criterion listed in the bug[2] doesn't seem to fit, as it is more focused > on what happens after the system is booted (which does work in the case of > this bug). There is a Final criterion[3] that covers switching between two > accounts, where the data in the account switched out of is retained, but > that is not the case presented here (as this bug has to do with "logging > in/out" of accounts, not "switching" as they are defined technically). > Intellectually, we believe this type of bug should violate the criteria, as > it seems a common use-case, and so we are bringing it up as a possible > addition as there is nothing that currently covers this kind of bug. > > The new criterion could look something like "A system with multiple user > accounts must be able to log in and out of said accounts as presented by > all release-blocking desktops in their default configuration." > > We would appreciate feedback on this idea and the wording of the criterion. > Should this be a beta or a final blocker? If nothing is heard in a > reasonable amount of time (before next week's blocker review meeting), we > will assume there is no issue with the proposal and add it to the criteria > at that time. There's a sort of technical argument to be made that this is covered by https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_33_Beta_Release_Criteria#desktop-shutdown-reboot-logout . That says "Shutting down, logging out and rebooting must work using standard console commands and the mechanisms offered (if any) by all release-blocking desktops", with a footnote "Logging out must return the user to the environment from which they logged in, working as expected." Arguably the environment from which they logged in is not "working as expected" if you can't then log in as someone else. Adding a more explicit requirement wouldn't hurt, though, I guess. I sort of feel like it would be nice to somehow combine and rationalize all these related requirements somehow... -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ test mailing list -- test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to test-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx