Yes, I agree with the proposal. I also agree that most servers will be connected to the Internet, however, I can think of some use cases where Internet connection is not wanted and an intranet is sufficient, such as:
- a file server
- a print server
- a router
- a web server (for intranet)
So, my expectations would be that the package selection on DVD should enable to set up any of those above scenarios via at least the most standard way, so there should be at least:
- one database
- one http server
- one file serving program
- etc.
Do you plan something like a detailed case study or how do you want to decide which packages to delete?
On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 10:09 AM Kamil Paral <kparal@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
_______________________________________________On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 4:50 PM Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:For a long time, the Fedora Server Edition has provided a fairly
lightweight default installation, but a fairly heavyweight DVD. This
is because we opted to include a lot of infrastructure-related content
on the disk, such as BIND, FreeIPA, MariaDB and PostgreSQL, among
others.
The reality these days is that this is probably more or less
unnecessary. There's no such thing as a server that is not connected
to a network and since we aren't shipping the entirety of the Fedora
package collection on this disk, inevitably anyone installing from it
is going to need to have access to package mirrors anyway.
So I'd like to propose that we get rid of nearly the entirety of the
<optionlist> section from comps.xml[1][2] and variants-fedora.xml[3].
The result will be a far smaller install DVD, less space wasted on the
mirrors (both for the DVD and the install tree) and very little
difference in user experience.
Arguments against this have historically been that having it all on
one disk is better for network-constrained environments to avoid
downloading content multiple times. Realistically, however, I think
this is generally going to be solved by local mirroring in most
real-world scenarios.Makes sense to me.
[1] https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/blob/master/f/comps-f30.xml.inTo be exact, you mean adjusting just "<id>server-product-environment</id>" section, right?
[2] With the exception of the "server-hardware-support" and
"guest-agents" which may be needed for proper installation, depending
on the hardware.
[3] https://pagure.io/pungi-fedora/blob/master/f/variants-fedora.xml
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