On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 09:51:56AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > claims that the 'Completion deadline' "falls on the same day as the > > Alpha milestone freeze", but the Fedora Release Life Cycle page - > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Life_Cycle - claims it > > falls on the same day as the branch point, which is two weeks *before* > > the Alpha freeze. Given this inconsistency I didn't really feel > It's even worse: on the FESCo-approved F27 schedule, the Completion > deadline is neither of those, but instead at two weeks *before* the > branch point. This is almost certainly my fault by oversight when I was > proposing what the schedule would look like without an alpha. Ooh. We discussed this. https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/fesco/fesco.2017-03-17-16.00.log.html down at about 17:21:38. I think we may have been suffering from meeting fatigue at that point, but the crucial but if the conversation was: 17:21:22 <mattdm> what about the change checkpoint? 17:21:38 <mattdm> (and if we push that back, should we also push back the self-contained changes deadline?) 17:21:42 <dgilmore> mattdm: the earlier changes are submitted the better 17:21:43 <mattdm> (sorry to reopen all of that) 17:21:53 <mattdm> ok. so, leave the deadline? 17:22:06 <dgilmore> I think so yes 17:22:11 <mattdm> I guess having the checkpoint earlier is ok too 17:22:24 <dgilmore> after a cycle or two we can evaluate if we need to make changes 17:22:37 <mattdm> definitely 17:22:37 <sgallagh> I agree with keeping the change timeline where it is 17:23:04 <mattdm> ok, so, now, previously almost-voted-on schedule with everything the same but the branch pushed back by two weeks .... so I think the F27 schedule as it is represents the current policy. I'm, as of right now, not particularly convinced of the _realism_ of this and am thinking we should put it back to being *at* the branch point. In a magical world we would at branch point decide to pull in only changes that are complete, but we don't currently have any way to do that. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader _______________________________________________ test mailing list -- test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to test-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx