On Wed, 2015-09-02 at 21:18 +0200, Jan Kurik wrote: > Hi, > > in the past there was an issue with identification of deliverables > which block a Fedora release. We were dealing with this issue > specifically during Go/No-go meetings which is quite late for this > kind of decisions. > To solve this issue FESCo has started an activity [1] to identify > these deliverables in advance. The list of blocking (as well as some > non-blocking) deliverables for Fedora 23 is currently available on > Wiki page [2]. > > You might want to check the list [2] to make sure we have all the > blocking deliverables tracked. If you find anything what might not be > correct from your point of view, please let me know, so we can > discuss > it. Thanks for your cooperation. > > [1] https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1427 > [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Program_Management/ReleaseB > locking/Fedora23 It doesn't seem entirely clear if the page is intended to be a list of all deliverables (which also notes whether each one is release blocking), or whether it's just intended to be a list of release blocking deliverables only. On the one hand, the page name has 'ReleaseBlocking' on it. On the other hand, the title is "List of Fedora 23 release deliverables". On the other other hand, the page lists several non-blocking deliverables. On the other other other hand, it's missing many more. See the end of this mail for a list of all (I think) media on the mirrors for F22 Beta TC1 (this list will be missing non-mirrored media like AMIs). I'm surprised the Cloud AMIs are not listed. The various Atomic and Docker images are not listed either as blocking or non-blocking; is their status decided? I've been trying to refer to the 'DVD' as 'offline' lately, since calling it 'the DVD' is a bit of a misnomer when most of the time it gets written to a USB stick. But it's not a big deal. There is, to my knowledge, no "Xfce Live Image (arm)", exactly. ARM disk images are not the same thing as live images. To my knowledge the two release-blocking media for ARM are the armhfp minimal disk image and the armhfp Xfce disk image. There is something of a 'jurisdiction overlap' here, as the release criteria already define some release blocking deliverables: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Template:Release_criteria_preamble "The term release-blocking images means all the images in which bugs are currently considered capable of blocking a Fedora release. The current set of release-blocking images includes the images defined by the three primary Products - Server, Workstation and Cloud - in their product requirement documents and/or technical specifications, and the KDE live image." We should probably clarify whether we intend the new page to be the canonical reference, in which case the criteria should be updated, or if the new page is just kind of an informational listing and the release criteria still define the policy. Having this page in fairly haphazardly-formatted human-readable text seems a bit clunky. I think it might be nicer to have it in some standardized format (json or yaml or something) and generate a human- readable version from that. Of course, someone would have to do it. As a side note, the criteria definition is notably missing the blocking ARM images, if that remains the 'canonical' reference we should fix it. Here is the list of all the images in F23 Beta TC1, according to fedfind (the name is fedfind's 'image.desc' property): workstation live image for i386 workstation netinst image for i386 workstation boot image for i386 workstation live image for x86_64 workstation netinst image for x86_64 workstation boot image for x86_64 server dvd image for i386 server netinst image for i386 server boot image for i386 server dvd image for x86_64 server netinst image for x86_64 server boot image for x86_64 cloud netinst image for i386 cloud boot image for i386 cloud netinst image for x86_64 cloud boot image for x86_64 cloud cloud_atomic image for x86_64 cloud cloud_atomic image for x86_64 cloud atomic disk qcow image for x86_64 cloud atomic disk image for x86_64 cloud atomic vagrant libvirt image for x86_64 cloud atomic vagrant virtualbox image for x86_64 cloud base vagrant libvirt image for x86_64 cloud base vagrant virtualbox image for x86_64 kde live image for i386 kde live image for x86_64 xfce live image for i386 xfce live image for x86_64 soas live image for i386 soas live image for x86_64 mate live image for i386 mate live image for x86_64 cinnamon live image for i386 cinnamon live image for x86_64 lxde live image for i386 lxde live image for x86_64 design_suite live image for i386 games live image for i386 security live image for i386 design_suite live image for x86_64 games live image for x86_64 security live image for x86_64 docker filesystem image for x86_64 workstation disk image for armhfp server disk image for armhfp kde disk image for armhfp minimal disk image for armhfp xfce disk image for armhfp soas disk image for armhfp mate disk image for armhfp lxde disk image for armhfp -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test