On 05.05.2015 17:46, Thomas Woerner wrote: > On 05/04/2015 09:05 PM, poma wrote: >> … >>> Moreover, it is worthwhile to implement them as is "Applet shows notifications" >>> i.e. "notifications", >>> so they can be enabled also in the applet with the checkbox in the right mouse menu. >>> >> >> I've tested it and concluded: >> when the control of appearance of the applet is in the applet itself, >> when the applet is in "none-show-inactive" mode, >> therefore, does not show its icon in the systray, >> dconf mechanism must be used to show it again. >> >> For this reason alone the use of this feature is not homogeneous, >> so I withdraw this part of the proposal. >> > > firewall-applet behaves in absence of the daemon like other applets do > also, for example the NetworkManager applet. If the daemon is not > running the applet is not shown. > Is this really a fact? Or if the nm-applet is installed and set as desktop auto-startup item: /etc/xdg/autostart/nm-applet.desktop and enabled as such, nm-applet "should be" displayed at all times, regardless of whether the NetworkManager is active (running) or not. Literally the same as I proposed for the firewall-applet. For the sake of clarity, I am referring to xfce4-panel's systray, therefore the Xfce, as shown in rhbz 1217797. "should be" - reserve toward GTK+ bugs > To show the applet in this case has pros and also cons. If for example > someone has deactivated firewalld, the applet will be visible all the > time without providing any useful functionality. > > There has been no change in the behavior of the applet since 2 releases. > "useful functionality" is exactly why I propose this - be informative at max. After all, it is about the firewall, right. > I am thinking about an additional check if the firewalld service is > enabled with systemd in this case. > Just do not say that you have adopted the "philosophy" of hiding firewall from users, you know yourself where it comes from. ;) -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test