On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 09:44:27 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > I think it can be a judgement call on certain packages. For example, I > maintain the Review Board packages which almost never get karma from > more than one person (and that usually only for whichiver Fedora or > EPEL branch that person is currently deploying to). Always there is at least one example of an unhappy/impatient packager, who considers Bodhi "unnecessary bureaucracy" or who finds examples of updates that "don't need any testing" and could be unleashed much more quickly. [The repo metadata would change a hundred times a day, if packagers could push changes to the repo without any delay.] I only have a problem with those packagers who try to outsmart Bodhi (and its defaults (e.g. karma threshold "3") and shoot themselves into their feet with runtime breakage or dependency breakage. * "It's just a rebuild of packages because of a SONAME bump in some lib!" * "I only cleaned up the spec file!" * "It's just a minor version update!" * "It's just a rename of package(s)!" It has happened before. Broken rebuilds because of changes in the tool-chain (previous build several months old!), in the other build dependencies, because of regression (or even a brown paperbag bug) in the upgraded lib, or even because of expired buildroot overrides. Some packages "sleep" in the distribution for months, survive the development cycle and alpha/beta test releases of the distribution, but are replaced too quickly with updates/upgrades _without_ any adequate testing. > Even at karma 1, > most Review Board packages sit in updates-testing until the timeout > passes. Which is a good thing. Waiting for the timeout is a good habit. At least it gives users a chance to test the update. "But nobody gives feedback on my test updates!" And obviously, for those packagers who don't mind the timeout, Bodhi could improve and offer an option to push an update to stable automatically after the timeout. Or after a customizable timeout, so e.g. the maintainer could request "21 days" instead of 7 days. Meanwhile, a sufficient number of karma changes could still speed up the release or veto it, too. > Hopefully, some of the new changes in Bodhi 2 will improve upon this > situation. I hear that's coming Real Soon Now. It's the packagers, who should act more responsibly and accept any aid offered by Bodhi instead of trying to rush out updates. -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
